If you haven't
already done so, please read the left-turn section
of Defect # 9 on the Home page
City of Mesa, Arizona, Documents
(and Other Arizona Information)
Mesa, pop. 450,000, is east of Phoenix.
Mesa has both red light cameras and speed
camera vans.
For a book on how to fight speed
camera tickets, see the Speeding Ticket
section on the Links page.
Mesa
Docs Set # 1
Mesa Data Shows Longer Yellows Cut Violations by 2/3
- Permanently
New 8-3-04,
updated 7-18-13
In
Nov.
2000
the
City
of
Mesa,
due
to complaints from its citizens, increased its left-turn
yellows from three seconds to four. The table
below shows that by the following month the number of
violations had dropped to 1/3 (or less) of what it had
been, and also that for years after the change, there
was no "rebound" - violations remained down. (Flipping
the
numbers over, we would expect that if Mesa re-set those
yellows back to three seconds, there would be a
threefold increase in violations.)
See the
footnotes [ ], and an Arizona
Tribune
article, for
details.
Table:
First
18
columns
are
red light camera data. Red type is total
violations photographed (most months are not
posted, due to time limitations).
Black type is citations issued. The 19th
(last) column is speed camera
citations issued.
The averages were
calculated by highwayrobbery.net.
[5]
CITY
OF
MESA,
ARIZONA
|
CC
Sou-
th-
ern
SBD
|
Sou-
thern
CC
Left |
Mesa
Sou-
th-
ern
NBD
|
Mesa
Bro-
ad-
way
|
Sta-
pley
Sou-
th-
ern
EBD
|
Sta-
pley
Bro-
ad-
way
NBD
|
Sta-
pley
Main
WBD
|
CC
Univ
SBD
|
CC
Univ
Left
|
Alma
Sou-
th-
ern
EBD
|
Alma
Sou-
thern
Left
|
Dob-
son
Sou-
thern
Left
|
Sou-
thern
Dob-
son
EBD
|
Univ
Mesa
WBD
|
Dob-
son
Bro-
adway
Left
|
Power
Main
Left
|
Lind-
say
Univ
NBD
|
Total
RLC
[1]
|
Total
Speed
Cam-
era
|
Jan00
|
77
|
|
45
|
93
|
38
|
66
|
84
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
0
|
|
|
|
403
|
1282
|
Feb00
|
93
|
|
14
|
64
|
25
|
52
|
55
|
10
|
|
|
|
|
|
68
|
|
|
|
381
|
1318
|
Mar00
|
79
|
|
39
|
65
|
42
|
64
|
47
|
129
|
0
|
9
|
161
|
0
|
15
|
94
|
9
|
309
28
|
10
|
791
|
2109
|
Apr00
|
62
|
213
|
82
|
73
|
37
|
67
|
48
|
145
|
621
|
19
|
779
|
406
|
75
|
75
|
278
|
2457
368
|
37
|
3385
|
1890
|
May00
|
49
|
386
|
68
|
55
|
19
|
71
|
60
|
135
|
506
|
10
|
1025
|
674
|
40
|
72
|
315
|
2127
395
|
32
|
3912
|
1742
|
Jun00
|
67
|
231
|
54
|
63
|
23
|
34
|
73
|
84
|
376
|
6
|
589
|
515
|
46
|
74
|
275
|
1429
381
|
31
|
2922
|
1311
|
Jul00
|
57
|
294
|
52
|
54
|
24
|
50
|
57
|
96
|
429
|
3
|
481
|
788
|
67
|
66
|
272
|
1519
435
|
23
|
3248
|
1225
|
Aug00
[5]
|
50
|
1134
283 |
64
|
62
|
23
|
44
|
64
|
95
|
1177
553
|
10
|
1705
658
|
2304
865
|
51
|
73
|
1036
292
|
1563
388
|
19
|
3594
|
1257
|
Sep00
[5]
|
42
|
1184
386 |
73
|
49
|
24
|
41
|
59
|
92
|
1009
479
|
14
|
1178
448
|
2355
1014
|
37
|
43
|
953
241
|
1087
296
|
28
|
3366
|
1370
|
Oct00
[5]
|
36
|
996
287 |
55
|
30
|
14
|
32
|
41
|
93
|
1013
471
|
13
|
1595
480
|
2295
752
|
38
|
68
|
833
253
|
1561
402
|
23
|
3088
|
1356
|
Nov00
[2] [5]
|
38
|
674
180 |
81
|
45
|
20
|
28
|
63
|
71
|
477
185
|
15
|
1010
335
|
1194
449
|
34
|
58
|
399
92
|
1529
399
|
19
|
2112
|
1257
|
Dec00
[5]
|
40
|
445
103 |
44
|
39
|
32
|
65
|
69
|
89
|
153
55
|
15
|
497
188
|
654
262
|
53
|
80
|
116
38
|
326
70
|
26
|
1268
|
1502
|
Jan01
[5]
|
29
|
506
125 |
36
|
36
|
23
|
35
|
82
|
91
|
181
67
|
18
|
400
119
|
437
167
|
33
|
68
|
111
41
|
339
60
|
22
|
1052
|
1330
|
Feb01
[5]
|
28
|
613
137 |
37
|
59
|
23
|
41
|
60
|
99
|
200
83
|
13
|
373
120
|
538
188
|
38
|
64
|
114
38
|
434
82
|
26
|
1136
|
1139
|
Mar01
|
35
|
213
|
61
|
42
|
33
|
66
|
67
|
122
|
142
|
24
|
94
|
183
|
43
|
85
|
34
|
376
68
|
20
|
1332
|
1808
|
Apr01
|
94
|
221
|
93
|
113
|
50
|
106
|
141
|
195
|
118
|
28
|
182
|
270
|
84
|
128
|
71
|
333
68
|
26
|
1988
|
1390
|
May01
|
111
|
231
|
144
|
69
|
30
|
113
|
113
|
193
|
148
|
11
|
88
|
240
|
77
|
140
|
51
|
290
56
|
34
|
1849
|
1425
|
Jun01
[3]
|
75
|
177
|
155
|
74
|
48
|
88
|
135
|
133
|
145
|
9
|
254
|
186
|
74
|
108
|
41
|
265
68
|
28
|
1798
|
1709
|
Jul01
|
81
|
122
|
114
|
48
|
12
|
77
|
111
|
121
|
130
|
-
|
135
|
122
|
55
|
126
|
0
|
256
47
|
24
|
1325
|
1233
|
Aug01
|
111
|
139
|
127
|
51
|
0
|
97
|
86
|
143
|
164
|
0
|
157
|
316
|
0
|
119
|
0
|
260
36
|
0
|
1546
|
1191
|
Sep01
|
139
|
165
|
114
|
47
|
0
|
130
|
170
|
145
|
177
|
0
|
87
|
222
|
0
|
119
|
0
|
356
112
|
0
|
1627
|
969
|
Oct01
|
145
|
197
|
101
|
32
|
0
|
77
|
135
|
201
|
170
|
0
|
105
|
250
|
0
|
106
|
0
|
234
47
|
0
|
1566
|
1183
|
Nov01
|
123
|
86
|
100
|
23
|
0
|
75
|
138
|
215
|
156
|
0
|
133
|
64
|
0
|
183
|
0
|
302
67
|
0
|
1363
|
768
|
Dec01
|
73
|
105
|
89
|
37
|
0
|
109
|
164
|
131
|
118
|
0
|
82
|
232
|
0
|
126
|
0
|
732
163
|
0
|
1429
|
1299
|
Jan02
|
63
|
112
|
82
|
28
|
0
|
101
|
129
|
153
|
88
|
0
|
124
|
228
|
0
|
137
|
0
|
1068
219
|
0
|
1464
|
1063
|
Feb02
|
84
|
134
|
98
|
49
|
0
|
179
|
98
|
128
|
92
|
0
|
116
|
267
|
0
|
111
|
0
|
841
204
|
0
|
1560
|
1085
|
Mar02
|
82
|
146
|
72
|
22
|
0
|
94
|
150
|
133
|
73
|
0
|
96
|
125
|
0
|
71
|
0
|
791
188
|
0
|
1252
|
784
|
Apr02
|
75
|
101
|
87
|
28
|
0
|
91
|
142
|
83
|
75
|
0
|
48
|
130
|
0
|
71
|
0
|
424
65
|
0
|
996
|
949
|
May02
|
59
|
90
|
111
|
38
|
0
|
115
|
160
|
133
|
67
|
-
|
24
|
122
|
-
|
80
|
0
|
382
73
|
0
|
1072
|
1151
|
Jun02
|
75
|
112
|
97
|
42
|
0
|
125
|
125
|
86
|
44
|
0
|
104
|
160
|
0
|
93
|
0
|
331
47
|
0
|
1110
|
1018
|
Jul02
|
67
|
132
|
92
|
29
|
0
|
98
|
105
|
91
|
41
|
-
|
49
|
97
|
0
|
87
|
17
|
313
35
|
0
|
940
|
1044
|
Aug02
|
15
|
93
|
114
|
48
|
0
|
146
|
151
|
124
|
80
|
0
|
19
|
271
|
0
|
117
|
40
|
262
34
|
0
|
1252
|
1139
|
Sep02
|
36
|
51
|
115
|
54
|
0
|
138
|
157
|
104
|
106
|
0
|
25
|
387
|
0
|
97
|
39
|
318
97
|
0
|
1406
|
1667
|
Oct02
|
32
|
161
|
191
|
35
|
0
|
153
|
170
|
87
|
97
|
0
|
36
|
455
|
0
|
142
|
62
|
448
167
|
0
|
1788
|
1279
|
Nov02
|
25
|
148
|
116
|
44
|
-
|
164
|
144
|
127
|
60
|
-
|
37
|
255
|
-
|
85
|
58
|
555
188
|
-
|
1451
|
1422
|
Dec02
|
44
|
98
|
145
|
47
|
0
|
151
|
167
|
106
|
37
|
0
|
46
|
277
|
0
|
88
|
47
|
745
201
|
0
|
1454
|
1704
|
Jan03
|
32
|
109
|
131
|
45
|
0
|
102
|
156
|
120
|
90
|
0
|
38
|
273
|
0
|
108
|
57
|
790
220
|
0
|
1481
|
973
|
Feb03
|
31
|
152
|
106
|
50
|
0
|
138
|
131
|
80
|
68
|
0
|
32
|
280
|
0
|
78
|
49
|
739
200
|
0
|
1395
|
919
|
Mar03
|
31
|
112
|
87
|
44
|
0
|
126
|
103
|
88
|
92
|
0
|
39
|
248
|
0
|
77
|
35
|
912
280
|
0
|
1362
|
1092
|
Apr03
|
55
|
109
|
99
|
56
|
0
|
122
|
150
|
144
|
81
|
0
|
20
|
193
|
0
|
75
|
39
|
494
129
|
0
|
1272
|
1184
|
May03
|
18
|
40
|
86
|
10
|
-
|
103
|
84
|
122
|
40
|
-
|
40
|
156
|
-
|
53
|
32
|
337
68
|
-
|
852
|
894
|
Jun03
|
21
|
11
|
124
|
-
|
2
|
89
|
80
|
124
|
34
|
-
|
63
|
167
|
-
|
73
|
36
|
275
66
|
-
|
890
|
|
Jul03
|
24
|
59
|
88
|
0
|
5
|
155
|
107
|
15
|
63
|
0
|
26
|
11
|
0
|
53
|
23
|
89
2
|
0
|
631
|
832
|
Aug03
|
15
|
93
|
114
|
48
|
0
|
146
|
151
|
124
|
80
|
0
|
19
|
271
|
0
|
117
|
40
|
262
34
|
0
|
1252
|
908
|
Sep03
|
32
|
36
|
76
|
0
|
5
|
109
|
97
|
113
|
131
|
0
|
39
|
285
|
0
|
87
|
49
|
83
14
|
0
|
1073
|
1004
|
Oct03
|
45
|
17
|
112
|
-
|
16
|
153
|
106
|
126
|
148
|
-
|
37
|
258
|
-
|
96
|
58
|
153
45
|
-
|
1117
|
|
Nov03
|
44
|
34
|
102
|
0
|
9
|
136
|
92
|
130
|
115
|
-
|
49
|
201
|
-
|
74
|
39
|
190
47
|
-
|
1072
|
1335
|
Dec03
|
59
|
160
|
135
|
0
|
13
|
137
|
145
|
178
|
46
|
0
|
73
|
352
|
0
|
98
|
79
|
221
47
|
0
|
1522
|
1735
|
Jan04
|
65
|
105
|
142
|
12
|
0
|
130
|
150
|
142
|
71
|
0
|
50
|
286
|
0
|
88
|
51
|
272
56
|
0
|
1348
|
1051
|
Feb04
|
62
|
120
|
108
|
0
|
11
|
164
|
123
|
153
|
107
|
0
|
69
|
371
|
0
|
81
|
60
|
586
145
|
0
|
1574
|
****
|
Mar04
|
97
|
149
|
103
|
0
|
11
|
139
|
124
|
130
|
110
|
0
|
58
|
289
|
0
|
65
|
43
|
757
175
|
0
|
1493
|
1115
|
Apr04
|
69
|
123
|
118
|
0
|
6
|
139
|
129
|
105
|
47
|
0
|
49
|
218
|
0
|
71
|
60
|
704
171
|
0
|
1305
|
1114
|
May04
|
81
|
116
|
75
|
0
|
9
|
135
|
104
|
114
|
57
|
0
|
86
|
200
|
0
|
23
|
51
|
506
162
|
0
|
1213
|
1054
|
Jun04
|
47
|
446
118 |
110
|
0
|
15
|
210
|
145
|
74
|
131
60
|
0
|
218
64
|
431
178
|
0
|
78
|
181
56
|
582
176
|
0
|
1331
|
1135
|
Jul04
|
42
|
410
105 |
87
|
-
|
4
|
280
|
105
|
53
|
103
27
|
-
|
169
39
|
339
99
|
-
|
61
|
117
29
|
379
63
|
-
|
994
|
|
Aug04
|
63
|
652
77 |
124
|
-
|
18
|
122
|
86
|
101
|
212
80
|
-
|
213
55
|
730
190
|
-
|
43
|
196
57
|
506
133
|
-
|
1149
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Monthly
Avg.
July 2000 -
Oct. 2000
[2]
|
46
|
313
|
61
|
49
|
21
|
42
|
55
|
94
|
483
|
10
|
517
|
855
|
48
|
63
|
265
|
380
|
23
|
3324
|
|
Nov. 14,
2000:
Left Turn
Yellows
Lengthened
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+1
sec.
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+1
sec. |
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+1
sec. |
+1
sec. |
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+1
sec. |
+1
sec. |
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Monthly Avg.
Dec. 2000 -
Mar. 2001
[2] |
33
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145
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45
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44
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28
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52
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70
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100
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87
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18
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130
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200
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42
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74
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38
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70
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24
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1197
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Monthly Avg.
Apr. 2001 -
Aug. 2004
[6]
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62
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114
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109
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46
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20
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128
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128
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124
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91
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71
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224
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94
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47
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108
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1331
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Monthly Avg.
Jan. 2006 -
Dec. 2009
[7] [8]
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187
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187
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42
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23
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112
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48
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154
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74
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213
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79
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71
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100
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27
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1316
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Jan. 2010 -
[8]
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CC
Sou-
th-
ern
SBD
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Sou-
thern
CC
Left |
Mesa
Sou-
th-
ern
NBD
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Mesa
Bro-
ad-
way
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Sta-
pley
Sou-
th-
ern
EBD
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Sta-
pley
Bro-
ad-
way
NBD
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Sta-
pley
Main
WBD
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CC
Univ
SBD
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CC
Univ
Left
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Alma
Sou-
th-
ern
EBD
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Alma
Sou-
thern
Left
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Dob-
son
Sou-
thern
Left
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Sou-
thern
Dob-
son
EBD
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Univ
Mesa
WBD
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Dob-
son
Bro-
adway
Left
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Power
Main
Left
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Lind-
say
Univ
NBD
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Total
RLC
[1]
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Total
Speed
Cam-
era
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Questions
Raised by the Figures in this Table
A. Why
was there no significant decline in overall
cites, when the 2001-2004 period (1331 cites per
month) is compared to the 2006-2009 period
(1316)?
B. Why was there a big jump in
citations at most intersections, but not all of
them, in March and April 2001?
C. Why did citations at Mesa/Southern
quadruple - including a near-doubling sometime
after Aug. 2004 - after being so low in early
2001?
D. Why did citations at
Dobson/Southern continue to be so high?
E. Why did citations at Power/Main
rise and fall so much during the 2001 - 2004
period?
The table above
was made by highwayrobbery.net, using the City's
official monthly tabulations of citations actually
issued. Except for the rightmost column, all
figures represent red light camera citations.
Official
reports, 2000 - 2001
Official
reports, 2002 - 2004
Official
report, 2006 - 2009
Footnotes:
[1] The
monthly totals are as provided by the City, except
for
Jun03,
Oct03,
Jul04,
and
Aug04
which were calculated by highwayrobbery.net.
The averages were calculated by
highwayrobbery.net.
[2] On Nov. 14, 2000, the City increased the
length of the yellows at the left turns above,
from three seconds, to four.
[3] Effective
June 1, 2001, the number of available cameras was reduced
from 17 to 12, with the cameras to be rotated among the 17
existing housings.
[4] Data requested but not yet received.
[5] Figures in red type (or, if you are
looking at this table in black and white, the upper figure
of the two in the cell) are "raw" violations recorded by
the cameras. They have been posted only for selected
months, due to time limitations. If there is
sufficient public interest, additional months will be
posted. The figures in black type are citations
issued.
[6] Months with no activity, and months at the
beginning or end of a short period of activity, have not
been included in this average .
[7] The official report for 2006 - 2009 (linked
above) combined the ticket counts for four of the left
turns with ticket counts for through movements. The
overall average Total RLC shown here for Jan. 2006 - Dec.
2009 (1316) is for the camera locations named in the table
above; it does not include locations constructed after
Aug. 2004.
[8] In 2011 highwayrobbery.net requested detailed
data for 2010 onward but was told that the only
information available was the one-page report for 2006 -
2009, linked above.
For details about the 2011 records request, see Set # 8,
below.
Mesa Docs Set # 2
Mesa's
Contract with the Vendor
As of July 2004 the contract
documents consisted of a 1999 contract and a
July 2001 amendment. Here are some major
provisions.
Vendor,
and term: The vendor was Lockheed Martin IMS, now
ACS. The contract was signed in Nov. 1999
and runs until April 30, 2005.
Fees: Until June 1, 2001, the vendor
received $48.50 each for the first 20,000 paid citations
(combined red light camera and speed camera) per year
(calendar year or contract year?), $39 for the next
20,000, and $21 for those above 40,000.
Beginning June 1, 2001 the two types of cameras have
separate compensation schedules. The vendor receives
$73 each for the first 900 red light camera tickets paid
each month, $65
for the next 300, and $48.50 for those above 1200.
For speed camera tickets, the vendor receives $51 for each
one paid.
Camera locations: The June 1, 2001 contract
amendment reduced the number of red light camera
mechanisms from 17 to 12 [although it appears, from the
table above, that they still have 13 cameras], with the
cameras to be rotated among the 17 existing housings.
Mesa Docs Set
# 3
The
Signs

There's
five or six signs in this photo. Which
one is illegal?
Mesa Docs Set
# 4
Location
of Limit Line
If you have a red light camera ticket from
any Arizona city, look at the extended commentary
below the three Aug. 17, 2006 Mesa crash photos on this
page.
Mesa Docs Set # 5
Arizona
Fake Tickets You Can Ignore!
Arizona has two different
kinds of camera tickets.
(1) Tickets
issued by the Department of Public Safety have a $100+
fine, and do not affect your insurance. The DPS
is ticketing only for speeding on State highways.
(2) Tickets
issued by Arizona cities are handled through the same
court system as are tickets issued by a "live" cop who
has pulled you over. These tickets carry a $200+
fine, and can affect your insurance. These
tickets can be either for running a red light, or for
speeding. If you have received a photo ticket
issued by an Arizona city (not the DPS), you MAY be
able to ignore it, if it says, "This is not a summons
to appear." These fake tickets may or may not
give the name of the court - and there will no address
for the court. Arizona fake tickets are similar to the Snitch
Tickets used in California. Read about
California Snitch Tickets in the top section on the
Your Ticket page.
Be sure to read this excellent
Phoenix New Times article
from 2007 before you make any contact with Arizona
authorities or their websites. But keep in mind
that the article is only about the city-issued tickets -
it was written before the beginning of the DPS
program. From the article:
"Most
cities don't send real citations to corporations. They
send weakly worded notices that can be safely thrown in
the trash. Unlike the grim tone of a citation, which
orders the motorist to pay a fine or appear in court on
a certain date, the violation notices let the company
know up front: " 'This is not a Summons to Appear. There
is no fine associated with this Notice.' "
"The
notices
sent
to
businesses
gently
ask
them to identify the driver and mail the form back so a
new ticket can be reissued in the driver's name. No law
forces anyone to do that, however."
"Scottsdale's
been
mailing
such
notices
for
years;
Mesa
and Phoenix started sending them last year. Tempe sends
businesses a letter instead of a citation."
"Police
do nothing when the notices are disregarded."
In 2011 a new law went into effect, limiting the
ability of Arizona authorities to print false threats
on notices sent out to motorists. From a Jul.
19, 2011 Phoenix New Times article:
"Starting tomorrow [Jul. 20, 2011],
photo-enforcement-violation notices must finally state
the truth about what's going on -- namely, that you
don't need to respond or identify the driver in the
picture."
Mesa Docs Set # 6
Petitions
Circulating
As of early 2009 there were at least two anti-camera
organizations in Arizona, and they were starting to
circulate statewide petitions. You can find
links to them, in Section 5 of the Links page.
Mesa Docs Set # 7
Mesa's
Losses Continue to Grow
Mesa has been losing money on its camera program.
Per an Arizona Republic article
published Mar. 5, 2010, the losses have been:
2009: $436,797
2008: $389,307
2007: $281,000
Mesa Docs Set # 8
Information
Blackout - For the Public and the City Council
In 2011 highwayrobbery.net
requested detailed ticketing data for 2010 onward (to
extend the table in Set # 1, above) but was told that
the only information available was the one-page report
for 2006 - 2009, linked above.
The 2011 correspondence with the City is in the
box, below.
On 3-17-11 highwayrobbery.net wrote:
For MPD PIO Det. B---- -
Thank you for returning my call just now.
Here is my written public records request.
I would like to get a copy of the report(s) or
other materials which were provided to the
Republic for their photo enforcement article of
the 16th. [link]
I would also like to get a copy of the most recent
periodic (monthly, quarterly, annual) photo
enforcement status report provided to the city
council, the public safety committee, or other
legislative body.
Finally, I would also like to get a copy of the
most recent comprehensive or non-periodic photo
enforcement report provided to the city council,
the public safety committee, or other legislative
body. The subject matter of interest would be any
aspect of the program including but not limited to
the contract, income, staffing, liability,
litigation, accident rates, or efficacy.
Thanks,
On 3-22-11 Steven B---- wrote:
Hello,
We don't normally send out information through
e-mail and normally there is a $5.00 fee
associated with any request. However, since there
is only the one page, my supervisor authorized me
to send it via e-mail.
This is the only sheet available. This is the
exact information that was provided to the Arizona
Republic for their article.
Steve
On 3-23-11 highwayrobbery.net wrote:
For Det. B---- -
Thanks for the data sheet. Since, per your
response, no report or status report, whether
periodic or non-periodic, has been provided to any
legislative body at any time (please advise if I
have mid-interpreted your response), I would like
to widen my request to cover any report or status
report provided to anyone, not necessarily a
legislative body, outside the program. This would
include, but not be limited to, documents provided
to police administration, a city oversight
committee (or any other oversight committee), city
administration, county administration or
legislative body, state administration or
legislative body, federal administration or
legislative body, the camera vendor, the press, or
the general public.
Thanks,
On 4-12-11 Steven B---- wrote:
Sorry for the delay in my response. The report
that I previously sent you is all that is
available. We do not put together any quarterly
type report according to my supervisor. For the
number of citations you could probably get that
information from Mesa City Court.
Steve
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Mesa Docs Set # 9
More
Coming
There may be some more Mesa information posted in
the next few weeks. Mark your calendar to
remind you to come back here and look!
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